FreddietheWire 	  Apr 9 2000, 12:00 am     show options
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From: FreddietheW...@webtv.net - Find messages by this author
Date: 2000/04/09
Subject: TRICKS OF THE TRADE-(from a non-locksmith!)
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I'm just a guy who gets a kick out of most of you flaming each other for
stupid crap---also enjoy the bad advice 90% of you give out on this
post---just a few things that I have seen while lurking around
here---the whole shove knife thing---its ridiculous to even attempt
opening a lock with one of these unless its a bed and bathroom lock you
see all modern day locks have an anti shim pin installed--therefore if
the lock is working properly it is useless to try this method--other
than picking the lock open try using a pair of channel locks or vice
grips--I have never met a entry lock yet that could not be opened this

way!---about this "government sealed schlage"???--gimme a break--that is

to moronic to even comment on--theres no such thing!---all the talk

about master combination locks--why bother manipulating them open when
it is so much easier to use bolt cutters??--but if you want to open them
without leaving a trace that it was opened then try using a shim on the
dogging side--it works and you can make your own shims instead of buying
them--with a little practice you'll even be able to do it faster than
with the combo!store front adams rite doors---the ones with the spring
latches--they can be bypassed very easily by inserting a bent piece of
spring steel thru the keyway then pulling back on it to form a "L"
shape--then all that is needed is to turn the wire and open the
door---however you will need to practice in order to get the right
dimensions down for each keyway--but hey--I'm not gonna give you all the

details!--as far as drilling safes--well all safes are different--some

have hard plate--some don't--drill points are different and handle cam
positions vary--and if your an idiot and you punch the spindle and knock
off the handle--then not only will you set off the re-lockers but
hopefully you'll get caught because your too stupid to be a

criminal!!!--sentry safes are by far the easiest to open--99 % of them

have no hard plate and all of them except the electronic ones have only
2 wheels and the driver---the drop in for most sentry's is at 75---or 9
O'clock on the dial ring--you can either angle drill thru the outside of
the dial ring or pull the dial and drill straight in at 75x1inch--you
will get a clear view of the wheel pack---any safe with hardplate in it
you better get yourself a whole bunch of carbide drill bits--cause your
in for a long time--or if its not a trtl-x-6 safe then you can side or
top drill and either punch the lockbolt or read the wheels thru the
change keyhole with a scope---all s&g 6730 safe locks mounted RH have a
drop in of 97--you can drill straight in under the dial at 97--or 98
times 1 inch--then read the wheels under the fence and your in--as for
S&G 6730's mounted vu--vd and Lh all you have to do is minus 25 points
off the original drop in to get your drill point depending on which way
its mounted---as far as electronic safe locks--before you pull out our
drill and start drilling try to spike the lock open first---the early
models of all these locks can be spiked open very easily---to do this
just remove the keypad then apply 9 to 15 volts to the wires--this
should "bounce " the solenoid back enough to turn the handle---and
speaking of bounce--on cheap electronic safes like the ones sold at wal
mart--you can actually pick this safe up--and bounce it on the floor
making the solenoid "bounce" just far enough to open the door!--if
spiking doesn't work drilling most of these safes are easy as most do
not contain hardplate---as for safes with key locks--if it is the safe
deposit key lock--pull the noses with either a "home" made nose puller
or use a dent puller--then when the tumblers drop--pry the bolt back
with an ice pick or small screwdriver and thats it---if its a regular
key safe--either pick it or drill it open---they drill easy as they are
only normal locks--however if its a medeco or chicago your in for a
pain--medeco can be drilled by drilling out the entire plug then
manipulating the bolt with a screwdriver--chicago tubulars can be
drilled by using a small hole saw and drilling out the face of the lock
allowing the pins to fall out----ok--now about opening store front
doors--the doors with panic bars on them or push handles---grab yourself
a metal clothes hanger--pound it flat on one end with a hammer then bend
that end into a "U" shape--then insert this end thru the door at the
weather stripping manipulate it onto the bar or handle and pull it

back--presto your in---as far as the adams rite deadlocks---use a pair

of vise rips and "wrench" out the cylinder--keep turning till it comes

off--then insert a probe and throw the bolt---bingo--your home---as far

as making your own picks--yes they can be home made--but its just easier
to get a copy of soldier of fortune or similar mag and buy them thru
that---as far as I'm concerned picking locks is a waste of time when all
locks can be forced open quicker!--yes even the ones with the so-called
anti wrench collars on them---all you have to do is pry the collar off
with a small pry bar first then wrench the lock!--you want to learn how
to pick locks--go to the library--they all have books on
locksmithing--then get yourself some lockpicks and practice--you should
start with disc tumbler locks as they are easier--then move up to pin
tumbler locks--forget about trying to pick locks like

medeco--multi-lock--assa---and the rest of the medium to high security

locks--they all use some sort of anti picking technology--either side
bars like on the medeco--and pins that have to turn to a certain angle
before making a shear line---there not pick proof--but they are pick
resistant--and even the best locksmiths cant pick open most of
them--besides it takes to long---just force the damn thing or drill
it!---but remember when drilling a medium to high security lock they all
use hardened steel pins to prevent drilling--so use good drill bits and
a full charged battery---as far as opening cars--it all depends on the
make and model car---most chrysler products have a moveable pawl--which
means you can put a bend in the end of a clothes hanger--slide it down
the inside of the door cavity behind the weather stripping just deep
enough to reach the backside of the lock--hook the pawl and pull
up--bingo---some model cars you have to push down on the pawl to open
it---as far as slide locks like on the gm autos--well you can use the
same hanger--but you have to put another bend in the wire--cause the
horizontal linkage runs under the window so you have to bend it to make
it under the window--hook the linkage and pullback towards the
lock--presto---you should use a light to look inside the door cavity
just so you aren't jamming the damn hanger in and out all
day---fords---well the newer fords door locks and by newer i mean from
84 and a half and up---the door locks can be picked open extremely
easy---the ignitions on these fords cannot be picked so easy cause it
uses a side bar ignition--but the doors open up like magic---no

picks??--no problem---if its a four door--just wedge the weather

stripping on the back door--slide in your wire opening tool and lift up
on the lock button itself---it opens real easy---ford blocked the
linkage of its front doors but the brain surgeons forgot to block the

back doors!!--well its getting late and I'm tired---maybe if I feel like

it I'll stop by tomorrow to post a few more tricks of the
trade---besides I cant wait to see the flaming I'm gonna get for posting

all this stuff---LMAO---chill out all you top secret squirrels---all the

stuff I posted can be found on the internet or in the library well
except maybe a couple of my own private little tips but oh

well---LMAO--let the flaming begin!!!!--I get a kick out of it so make

sure you get nice and mad when you respond--also make sure you call me
names like idiot and moron--or whatever you can think of--cause I just
laugh at you while I think of more things to post here that you guys
think are so hush hush top secret!!!
see you all later--and if your gonna use my tips to commit crimes--don't
blame me--I'm just the messenger----LMFAO
Its gonna really make my day when I come back here and find out how many

of you secret atom ants I pissed off!!!---LMFAO