FreddietheWire  	  Aug 5 2000, 3:00 am     show options
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From: FreddietheW...@webtv.net - Find messages by this author
Date: 2000/08/05
Subject: Impressioning(by freddie the wire)
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I have recently been getting a ton of email requesting information on
impressioning...I find this a time consuming way to bypass a lock...but
if you are really a locksmith then it is a great skill to have...but it
is more an art form than anything...and even more than learning to pick
locks..this takes a great deal of practice...but I will list the basics
for ya,

the basic principles behind impressioning is that while exurting
pressure on a key blank that is inserted in a keyway and bumping this
blank up and down...the torque will bind the pins agains the plugs walls
and allow the pins to leave tiny little rub marks...or foot prints if
you will on the blank....the idea is to carefully file where ever you
see a mark...you only take off a little bit at a time as so not to file
the cut too deep....then you smooth the cut over and re-nsert it and
turn and bump it again causing the pins to rub their "foot prints" into
the blank once again....this is a very very hard skill to learn....and
takes great patience...your best bet is to practice on a cheap
lock...make sure it is mounted firmly...and disassemble the cylinder
leaving only 2 pins in it at first....try impressioning it for only 2
pins...when you get that down..add another and yet another and another
until you have it down pat....you can also get yourself a black light
and a marker that will "stick" to brass without rubbing off...the marker
should also be of the type that shows up clearly under the black
flourescent light....thereby making the marks even easier to read...now
the bonehead on this NG that thinks he owns this place...billy bob
bonehead...he thinks he invented this procedure.....however...he did
not...he stole it from a guy who created it in california many many
years ago...yet billy bob bonehead..markets his little impressioning box
at all the shows of the trade....dont bother...its a joke...and you can
make your own from supplies bought at your local wal mart...for a few
bucks!!!...also..when I used to impression a great deal I had some luck
with using grease pencils and water soluable pens....but they do tend to
rub too clean on insertion...but sometimes you do get a very good
reading...and you dont have to keep running back to your van to hold it
under the black light....so anyways...those are just the basic
principlies of impressioning...clearly it is much easier to impression a
disc tumbler lock ...and no...not like abloy or the GM locks...these
have side bars and impresioning a side bar lock is like trying to run a
tab at a whore house...just aint gonna happen unless you can apply
pressure to the side bar!!!

ok...gotta run....I have noticed I didnt get any response on my question
about the atm yet...its either because the guys who like me dont know
it...or they have not been on yet...I certainly hope its not because you
wont share info with a scum bag like myself....lol...seeing how I freely
offer up any info I have...and am constantly available to help all of
you.....but no biggy...I made inquiries...and should get a copy of the
schematics faxed to me by the end of the weekend...will be sure to let
all my fans have a copy of the entire diagram...lol...just for kicks
that is.....lol  

am gone...ciao
Freddie the Wire

	
LOCKMN1098 	  Aug 5 2000, 3:00 am     show options
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From: lockmn1...@aol.com (LOCKMN1098) - Find messages by this author
Date: 2000/08/05
Subject: Re: Impressioning(by freddie the wire)
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>.your best bet is to practice on a cheap
>lock...make sure it is mounted firmly...and disassemble the cylinder

Instead of a cheap lock, use a good Schage or Corbin-Russwin, do not
dis-sassemble (these leave excellent impressions without doing anything as you
mentioned... also smoke the key (or ultra violet (you can get false readings
with the uv light so start with smoking the key first,)). your other suggestion
are hit and miss.

I don't fully agree with your attitude on the ng, but each their own.

Some of the suggestion you give are a waste of time (not a flame, sorry for the
offense if taken as), and some are on the button, but some like this one try
to give an easier direction.

>yet billy bob bonehead..markets his little impressioning box

I agree. total waste of money.A  WR-7 vice grip and #02 (my pref for files)
Pippin fileis all I take. Forreign, domestic, house or business. Have to
impression, it's all I use.

>its either because the guys who like me dont know
>it...or they have not been on yet...I certainly hope its not because you
>wont share info with a scum bag like myself....lol...seeing how I freely
>offer up

Don't know, haven't done Any safe work in twenty years... sticking to masterkey
systems... like I said, to each their own.